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Post by A Very Plummy Plum on Oct 24, 2005 0:37:08 GMT -5
Am I alone? Someone on this board said not long ago that he sounds like a "crap grunge guitarist"...how very true.
Now that we have the some proper, official Shambles studio material, I can say without a doubt that I can't stand his playing. Hitting a bad note here and there is punky and cool, but when you use the same amateur trick every fucking tune you just sound like a hack.
His playing nearly ruins a solid album, as far as I'm concerned....
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Post by Hail on Oct 24, 2005 2:09:56 GMT -5
He's good at solos, but so was Giancarlos. Pete should stop trying to be Morrisey and pick the guitar back up on stage, because some songs sound shit without him.
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Post by Plummy Plum on Oct 24, 2005 2:17:50 GMT -5
I'll also give Mick Jones a (dis)honorable mention for another spotty production job. Too much coke up yer nose, Mick...
Say what you will about Bernard Butler being uptight and anal, but at least he's a professional who gets the best out of a band.
DLBITS Butler vs. DLBITS Jones, anyone?
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Post by clarky on Oct 24, 2005 6:23:39 GMT -5
i'll take credit for the pat walden slagging comments previously mentioned and not mentioned in this thread.
he's awful and should have his hands tied behind his back.
bernard butler's stuff is much better and all the pre UTB stuff like legs 11, you're my waterloo/breck road...whoever produced them...perhaps the libs themselves....has got the right idea about the libertines sound.
let's just hope carlos can come up trumps
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Post by Stu on Oct 24, 2005 11:14:57 GMT -5
pat has some ace ideas like the stix and stones riff
but hes just toooo lazy
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Post by Plum on Oct 24, 2005 13:01:23 GMT -5
I think the Stix and Stones riff has been there since the Branding Sessions, so credit for that goes to Peter or perhaps even Carlos.
Patrick's a C-level talent with enough dumb luck to have hooked himself to a true star.
Bernard gets further credit for the I Get Along EP, and the almighty Delaney....
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Post by Stu on Oct 24, 2005 14:53:58 GMT -5
I think the Stix and Stones riff has been there since the Branding Sessions, so credit for that goes to Peter or perhaps even Carlos. Patrick's a C-level talent with enough dumb luck to have hooked himself to a true star. Bernard gets further credit for the I Get Along EP, and the almighty Delaney.... oh i didnt know that yeh the delaney is where it is at i sounds amazing |
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Post by LAGirl on Oct 25, 2005 17:17:49 GMT -5
tuff, tuff! there's nothing wrong with pat's playing ability. he's good when not drunk.
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Post by Rich on Oct 25, 2005 17:25:19 GMT -5
Pat either sounds ace or fucking abysmal, there's no middle ground. I reckon a lot of Babyshambles stuff would sound better if Peter was playing chords as well.
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Post by Stu on Oct 25, 2005 17:32:33 GMT -5
yes exactly rich
notice on the shambles album the fullest songs have two guitars i.e 32nd december
l.a girl hes a lazy cunt
he just wanks his bar too much
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Post by Mozza on Oct 25, 2005 17:34:53 GMT -5
he just wanks his bar too much i cant fault him for that - i love it myself |
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Post by Rich on Oct 25, 2005 17:35:50 GMT -5
Yeah I noticed that Stu.
If it wasn't for Adam and Drew the other songs would be shite. I didn't think much of Drew until hearing the album, he is a cracking musician.
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Post by Rich on Oct 25, 2005 17:36:58 GMT -5
he just wanks his bar too much i cant fault him for that - i love it myself Stu means using the wammy bar when it's on his guitar Mozza... NOT taking it off, lubing it up and sitting on it like you do. |
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Post by Mozza on Oct 25, 2005 17:39:45 GMT -5
i cant fault him for that - i love it myself Stu means using the wammy bar when it's on his guitar Mozza... NOT taking it off, lubing it up and sitting on it like you do.  |
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Post by Stu on Oct 25, 2005 17:51:01 GMT -5
yeh he rapes that jazz master...im suprised his bridge doesnt fall off
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