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Post by vibratinglemon on Aug 11, 2003 16:55:27 GMT -5
To anybody who gives a shiny shit about the band Everybody knows the bleurgh about Pete getting nicked for trespassing on Carls flat and its the only news coming outta the Libs camp I've heard at the moment and god knows I've searched. Is there ne possibilities of people having heard ne thing else about a possible reconciliation between the band? I mean Pete said last week in NME he wants to play with Carl all the time but then said sumat about his new band being the only option after whats happened or sumat along them lines. Ultimately does ne body know if the Libs will be back and as the original line up and not as some fucking half arsed bunch of 2 bob cunts, without what made us love 'em ALL before Pete's 'problems'. Fucking sort it out lads. Replies appreciated Thank you from a concerned immensely fanatical fan...  |
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Post by BrownLeatherJacket on Aug 12, 2003 7:32:43 GMT -5
I wanna know what Carl has to say, He must have said somthing about the situation? I know I would if me and my best mate got into this situation! I am gutted about the way this is going. Come on Carl/Pete ya gotta sort it out!  |
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Post by Tim on Aug 12, 2003 8:12:53 GMT -5
I take it you've seen the news about Pete on NME or somewhere by now? There's slightly more in this article from the online version of the London Evening Standard, click hereSo Pete is determined to sort himself out and record with the band again - excellent news! It's great that he's admitted to himself that he's got a problem, and is now asking for help with it. To answer the original question, it's very unlikely that anyone hears much that they can be confident of believing... a lot of the stuff gets posted on the various forums or news pages or whatever, so if it's not there, it's very unlikely that anyone else, other than perhaps people very close to the band or in the industry, has heard anything more... As for Carl, apparently there's an interview with him in this coming weeks' NME, although depending on what he says that might well be outdated by what Pete has just said... we'll have to wait and see I guess... |
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Post by holly on Aug 12, 2003 8:19:19 GMT -5
I agree.... definitley for the best all this has come out. Now its out in the open Peters being honest about whats going on things can move on...?
I'm so happy he wants to work things out with The Libertines, it really would be such a waste if things were to fall apart.
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Post by Jim82 on Aug 12, 2003 8:35:05 GMT -5
This is the article from the evening standard:
"Doherty tells of crack hell
By Juliette Garside, Evening Standard
12 August 2003
The former lead singer of one of Britain's most up-and-coming rock bands today admitted he is addicted to heroin and crack cocaine.
Pete Doherty, 24, co-founded the Libertines six years ago and has enjoyed huge success with the band - whose first album has sold thousands of copies and who have appeared on Top of the Pops.
But the group has been torn apart by Doherty's addiction and arguments over the way the band is managed.
Doherty could now face a prison sentence after admitting breaking into the London flat of co-founder Carlos Barat in a fit of rage and stealing thousands of pounds worth of electrical and musical equipment.
Today he told the Standard he had problems with drug dependence - but was determined to clean himself up and begin recording again with the group.
"Yes I'm a heroin addict, yes I'm addicted to crack cocaine, and I don't know what to do," he said.
"When I was arrested for burglary, they found traces of opiates and crack cocaine in my blood. I'm all cut up, unsure, I don't know what I'm doing, I need a good kicking and I need some help."
Of the break-in, Doherty said: "I went to speak to Carlos about how I had a drummer and bass player living on my floor. They are on the dole and I needed to pay them because they are musicians. I was going down to Carlos's to say I can't pay them out of my own money and I found myself shouting at him and it turned out I was arguing with my reflection.
"When I realised, I booted the door in. I was engulfed by complete misery and despair. It wasn't revenge. It was more 'why are you ignoring me' - a cry from the darkness. I do feel remorse, I feel sick."
The Libertines' record label, Rough Trade, paid for Doherty, who says he is £300,000 in debt, to visit a rehabilitation clinic earlier this summer so he could clean up and rejoin the band. But the singer says he left after four or five days.
"You don't go to rehab, you just kick it. It's got to come from within," he added.
Doherty says he first tried heroin when he was 18 or 19, and at the peak of his addiction was using it four or five times a day.
But at 21, a Brazilian girlfriend tried to help him clean up. "I was induced to kick the habit by force, I got taken by the scruff of the neck. She said it was either me or the opiates. I went to live in Portugal with her for four months and during that time I just lived on red wine."
Born in Hexham, near Newcastle, to Irish parents, Doherty says drugs were never part of his upbringing. His father joined the Army at 19 and is currently in Iraq.
"I was never particularly troublesome as a kid. I was very troubled inwardly but I had a very, very fascistically dictatorial, disciplined childhood. I had a strict, working-class military father. I wasn't into being a troublemaker."
He left school at 16 and headed for London, where he met Barat in 1995. The two formed their band in the East End in 1997 and played with various line-ups until signing a record deal in 2002 and releasing their first album, Up The Bracket.
Doherty, who became a father four weeks ago, says his differences with Barat are not about drugs but in their approach to the recording industry.
"Carlos is happy to record an album, promote it for a certain amount of time. I can't do that, I need to write songs."
Despite admitting he enjoys the effects of hard drugs, Doherty said he realised his addiction would kill him if he didn't get help.
Yesterday at Horseferry Road magistrates court, he admitted carrying out the burglary on 25 July. He will be sentenced on 8 September.
The band's management refused to comment."
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Post by following that on Aug 13, 2003 7:03:05 GMT -5
good god but surely the crown court cant do that unless carl presses charges? do we think that carl wud spite his best frend and vocalist like that?  |
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Post by Jim82 on Aug 13, 2003 7:37:03 GMT -5
Theres a good interview with carl in this weeks new musical and a review of the first american show. Carl says hes been writing new songs which is a good thing and hes hoping to record them.
And the guy who edits the letters page thinks its a good thing that petes gone awol. Its rock n roll apparently, dont know if hes taking the piss though.
Ill write up the article and put it on the news page soon.
I dont know who pressed charges, but pete did rob carls flat at the end of the day, or at the start of the day, i dont know. Its not really clear whats going on at the moment its all speculation.
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Post by ted on Aug 13, 2003 23:37:08 GMT -5
saw them last night and someone asked carl about the pete thing. he said something like "he broke into my flat" and i think, think, said something about getting back together when everything's sorted out.
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Post by Jim82 on Aug 14, 2003 8:23:13 GMT -5
Forgot to mention, DLBITS, single of the week as well, narrowly beating the cooper temple clause apparently.
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Post by Tim on Aug 14, 2003 11:09:43 GMT -5
Did you see the review of the Cooper Temple Clause single? What a shit review... talk about a pathetic excuse to tell a very dull story...
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Post by Jim82 on Aug 14, 2003 13:01:12 GMT -5
the review of the libertines wasnt much better, it amazes me how they can pass that singles section off as a review section, they dont even tell you when the things are coming out, what they sound like or anything. Im prob being a bit harsh, some of them are ok. Its always funny to read their reviews of shed 7 singles anyway.
The best singles review thing i know is that one on channel 4 text (think its 163) on a monday. Always a good read and sometimes has stuff the NME misses out on.
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Post by Tim on Aug 15, 2003 12:27:43 GMT -5
I don't think you're being a harsh at all, some of them are alright but they spend too long on things that aren't relevant (where the band's from, how closely related to Jack White they are, etc) and not enough words on whether it's actually any good or not. Some of them are quite funny, but I've seen the same style of joke that they did with the Dogs Die In Hot Cars single ("coming next week new releases from Small Children Can Choke On Peanuts...") about three times in the space of two weeks...
The teletext ones can be not bad actually, they do give you a fair idea of what it sounds like, which is always handy.
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Post by thelibertinesrgods on Aug 15, 2003 14:24:31 GMT -5
ya ted, did you see their gig in montreal cus if you did it was me who asked Carl about the Peter situation. after the show Carl , Gary and John all told me the same thing. Peter has some things to sort out and when he does they`d like to have him back because he`ll always be a Libertine.
by the way wasn`t the gig wild. the whole cafe campus was going nuts and their great guys too. i hung out with them for a good while after the show, i got some pics and signatures.
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